i bet both sides are saying that line, in all honesty
What those scuba diving terrorist were planning was downright wrong. But it seems like this girl doesn’t fully understand how the blockade is only part of the problem. I’m sure her sarcasm sits well with a lot of people, but it diminishes the magnitude of the issue. She makes it seem like if the Palestinians stopped attacking, the Israelis would stop the blockade, and everything would be sunshine and rainbows. No, it’s not that simple. These people are deprived, displaced, and disfranchised. If Palestinians gain freedom, those are the next issues that would have to be tackled.
i think i’m going to say something, but not to get into a debate or any word fight…
i think one will form his or her opinion based on how he see an perceive things… from his or her perspective…
and i think it’s normal for the normal israeli people to see as they are being attacked by those inside palestine, because they see the rockets, see how it killed and hurt their people, etc…
and the same can be said with the palestinian, as they see all the bombings of their houses and the aftermath of death, injuries, and rubble…
the thing is, the normal people on one side don’t really see how the other side is suffering, thus it’s kind of normal they have empathy towards what’s happening to their people, but seem to have none to the people on the other side…
another thing i might add, is that the people in palestine are, as the effects of the blockade and military presence, among others, living in an environment not normal for any human being… they can end up feeling trapped, feeling helpless… now, if you have seen some of the documentaries on the aftermath of the US attack on certain places in the mid east, they observed that more of the youth tend to end up supporting the taliban, for instance, and ending up joining them, trained with them, and finally become the very product that the US say they didn’t want in the first place… these youth that have lost their parents due to the bombings, lost any hope, and the only people that lend their hand and support them was taliban.. i’m mentioning this just to show as an example, what the israeli government is choosing to do right now, will not actually solve the problem, and certainly will NOT be for the best interest of the israeli people…
yes, they thought they would eradicate the power of Hamas by imposing those actions, but, the thing is, that exact action only strengthen hamas in the long run (unless the number of casualty can be made so great that the people in gaza will end up extinct)…
i believe, that is why there are voices from inside israel itself, that is ‘opposing’ what the government is choosing to do as of now… because in the end, it’s for their own good…
so, that’s my point of view that i like to share with you, as a sincere friend…
of course you know i have never have anything against you, just i have a lot of problem with the israeli government’s action (since a long time, if you want me to be honest XD )
so i’ll end up with that note =)
No one’s right when everyone’s wrong.
I love this, its hilarious and straight- forward, this is how I want to hear my news every day. (Is this you by the way? Or someone else?)
@maniacsicko - – You bring up a good point and I agree with what you said about Palestinians’ way of thinking after what has happened to them. I also wanted to add to what you said about how one side sees it own people suffering and not the other-
I’ve always felt pain when I see any human-being suffering on television, in real life etc. I always try to offer my help. But whenever I see someone from my own country (Russia) suffering, it strikes a more powerful chord inside me. These people LOOK like my family, they speak my language and its just a lot more painful to watch someone like that suffer than someone who I don’t identify with. Which is how Israelis & Palestinians probably feel as well. And to be honest, I don’t really blame either side for hating the other for the way each has been treating the other. And it maybe incredibly inhumane to see your enemy suffering and not care as much as seeing someone you identify with suffer, but I can understand how one may get that feeling.
And you’re right about the result being the strengthening of Hamas. Thats why I believe both sides need to swallow their pride, take the high road and teach their kids/ teach them in schools not to respond with violence, but to forgive their enemies and make peace.
Its funny, both sides have very strong religions. I don’t study religion and I may be wrong but isn’t that what religion is supposed to teach people? To forgive, to treat your neighbor as you’d like to be treated, etc. I thought all those lessons evolve from the Bible?? I realize Muslim is a different religion from Christianity, but I though they all followed the same basis, no? After the whole South Park/other incidents, Muslims responded with violence when anyone offended Allah. But shouldn’t religion teach you otherwise? I thought religion was meant for the purpose of faith, loving thy neighbor and not reacting violently.
on the religion bit, yeah, religion teach people to be human, and a good one, in essence… i believe kristen can second me on that one…
but the question is also a valid one… if that is true, why do we see a very different picture being painted all over the world… here are some of my response to that, in this spontaneous comment:
1. there are countless of people that actually can attest to that statement… they follow their religion (islam, christianity, etc), and they become good people that ‘make the world a better place’… the thing is, only people in contact or in the circle of these people would get to see that picture… simply because they are not news… these people and their actions are simply not news material… if you put them on a tv show, it would be a very boring show, haha… and thus, people outside their circle would not know the existence of such people…
2. the people that are the wackos, are the ones that grab the limelight… they are news material… people want to know about them, what they did, why, etc… and with that, even people never come across these people will still end up knowing about them…
3. these wackos, even if their quantity is not that large, but when they are being shown again and again, people become more and more aware about them.. they become a reality to them even if no such people like that live in their proximity…
4. more interestingly, if these wackos are doing stuff in the name of religion.. so, one might have heard about a certain religion, but never come across the followers… guess what their world view on that particular religion will be based upon? those wackos… and thus the generalization…
i think this will go for any religion (or groups of people – atheist included)…
and the media isn’t helping either… i still remember playing video games that subconsciously plant a worldview of the upright US vs the evil Russian in my head… of course now the bad guys tend to be the muslim, but the effects of the cold war are still there to a certain extent…
as for your statement “Muslims responded with violence when anyone offended Allah”, i think you should say “some muslims”… i don’t think the whole 1.3 billion or so muslim actually act in such a way… if they did, haha, can you imagine what the aftermath would be like?
@maniacsicko - Yep, you’re right. the wackos responded violently. I actually wrote “many Muslims” at first and then I realized that portrayed way too many than there were and I changed it to just “Muslims”.. I’m just not sure the exactly number, I didn’t really research outside of the popular cases.
This is why I don’t feel very fondly of religion. But I really hope that there aren’t as many “wackos” as the media makes it seem from what you described. Actually thinking about what you said makes me a lot less nervous, so thanks for that!
I actually re-watched the above video and I didn’t really like how she said “people are supposedly dying in the streets of Gaza, etc” .. I’m pretty sure that part isn’t made up.
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“will you just quit bombing our cities”
that is priceless
i bet both sides are saying that line, in all honesty
What those scuba diving terrorist were planning was downright wrong. But it seems like this girl doesn’t fully understand how the blockade is only part of the problem. I’m sure her sarcasm sits well with a lot of people, but it diminishes the magnitude of the issue. She makes it seem like if the Palestinians stopped attacking, the Israelis would stop the blockade, and everything would be sunshine and rainbows. No, it’s not that simple. These people are deprived, displaced, and disfranchised. If Palestinians gain freedom, those are the next issues that would have to be tackled.
i think i’m going to say something, but not to get into a debate or any word fight…
i think one will form his or her opinion based on how he see an perceive things… from his or her perspective…
and i think it’s normal for the normal israeli people to see as they are being attacked by those inside palestine, because they see the rockets, see how it killed and hurt their people, etc…
and the same can be said with the palestinian, as they see all the bombings of their houses and the aftermath of death, injuries, and rubble…
the thing is, the normal people on one side don’t really see how the other side is suffering, thus it’s kind of normal they have empathy towards what’s happening to their people, but seem to have none to the people on the other side…
another thing i might add, is that the people in palestine are, as the effects of the blockade and military presence, among others, living in an environment not normal for any human being… they can end up feeling trapped, feeling helpless… now, if you have seen some of the documentaries on the aftermath of the US attack on certain places in the mid east, they observed that more of the youth tend to end up supporting the taliban, for instance, and ending up joining them, trained with them, and finally become the very product that the US say they didn’t want in the first place… these youth that have lost their parents due to the bombings, lost any hope, and the only people that lend their hand and support them was taliban.. i’m mentioning this just to show as an example, what the israeli government is choosing to do right now, will not actually solve the problem, and certainly will NOT be for the best interest of the israeli people…
yes, they thought they would eradicate the power of Hamas by imposing those actions, but, the thing is, that exact action only strengthen hamas in the long run (unless the number of casualty can be made so great that the people in gaza will end up extinct)…
i believe, that is why there are voices from inside israel itself, that is ‘opposing’ what the government is choosing to do as of now… because in the end, it’s for their own good…
so, that’s my point of view that i like to share with you, as a sincere friend…
of course you know i have never have anything against you, just i have a lot of problem with the israeli government’s action (since a long time, if you want me to be honest XD )
so i’ll end up with that note =)
No one’s right when everyone’s wrong.
I love this, its hilarious and straight- forward, this is how I want to hear my news every day. (Is this you by the way? Or someone else?)
@maniacsicko - – You bring up a good point and I agree with what you said about Palestinians’ way of thinking after what has happened to them. I also wanted to add to what you said about how one side sees it own people suffering and not the other-
I’ve always felt pain when I see any human-being suffering on television, in real life etc. I always try to offer my help. But whenever I see someone from my own country (Russia) suffering, it strikes a more powerful chord inside me. These people LOOK like my family, they speak my language and its just a lot more painful to watch someone like that suffer than someone who I don’t identify with. Which is how Israelis & Palestinians probably feel as well. And to be honest, I don’t really blame either side for hating the other for the way each has been treating the other. And it maybe incredibly inhumane to see your enemy suffering and not care as much as seeing someone you identify with suffer, but I can understand how one may get that feeling.
And you’re right about the result being the strengthening of Hamas. Thats why I believe both sides need to swallow their pride, take the high road and teach their kids/ teach them in schools not to respond with violence, but to forgive their enemies and make peace.
Its funny, both sides have very strong religions. I don’t study religion and I may be wrong but isn’t that what religion is supposed to teach people? To forgive, to treat your neighbor as you’d like to be treated, etc. I thought all those lessons evolve from the Bible?? I realize Muslim is a different religion from Christianity, but I though they all followed the same basis, no? After the whole South Park/other incidents, Muslims responded with violence when anyone offended Allah. But shouldn’t religion teach you otherwise? I thought religion was meant for the purpose of faith, loving thy neighbor and not reacting violently.
@redcrescent27 - great comment, kudos
on the religion bit, yeah, religion teach people to be human, and a good one, in essence… i believe kristen can second me on that one…
but the question is also a valid one… if that is true, why do we see a very different picture being painted all over the world… here are some of my response to that, in this spontaneous comment:
1. there are countless of people that actually can attest to that statement… they follow their religion (islam, christianity, etc), and they become good people that ‘make the world a better place’… the thing is, only people in contact or in the circle of these people would get to see that picture… simply because they are not news… these people and their actions are simply not news material… if you put them on a tv show, it would be a very boring show, haha… and thus, people outside their circle would not know the existence of such people…
2. the people that are the wackos, are the ones that grab the limelight… they are news material… people want to know about them, what they did, why, etc… and with that, even people never come across these people will still end up knowing about them…
3. these wackos, even if their quantity is not that large, but when they are being shown again and again, people become more and more aware about them.. they become a reality to them even if no such people like that live in their proximity…
4. more interestingly, if these wackos are doing stuff in the name of religion.. so, one might have heard about a certain religion, but never come across the followers… guess what their world view on that particular religion will be based upon? those wackos… and thus the generalization…
i think this will go for any religion (or groups of people – atheist included)…
and the media isn’t helping either… i still remember playing video games that subconsciously plant a worldview of the upright US vs the evil Russian in my head… of course now the bad guys tend to be the muslim, but the effects of the cold war are still there to a certain extent…
as for your statement “Muslims responded with violence when anyone
offended Allah”, i think you should say “some muslims”… i don’t think the whole 1.3 billion or so muslim actually act in such a way… if they did, haha, can you imagine what the aftermath would be like?
@maniacsicko - Yep, you’re right. the wackos responded violently. I actually wrote “many Muslims” at first and then I realized that portrayed way too many than there were and I changed it to just “Muslims”.. I’m just not sure the exactly number, I didn’t really research outside of the popular cases.
This is why I don’t feel very fondly of religion. But I really hope that there aren’t as many “wackos” as the media makes it seem from what you described. Actually thinking about what you said makes me a lot less nervous, so thanks for that!
I actually re-watched the above video and I didn’t really like how she said “people are supposedly dying in the streets of Gaza, etc” .. I’m pretty sure that part isn’t made up.