@Power_Ranger_Freak - either way….not supposed to be eaten

@CH1216a - It’s not to late to change your eating and follow what the bible says when it comes to food

@letseewhatthiswilldo - how so?

@letseewhatthiswilldo - So you would claim that G-d has changed even though G-d has said I am G-d I change not?

SO G-d Changed and now you can eat stuff that He never wanted you to eat before?

I think I have always been very clear….Salvation is by grace through faith not of ANY works. Works are our fruit that we do after we are saved because faith without works is dead. The works do not save us. Faith does.

There are a few other scriptures people use to say that, according to Paul, the dietary laws had been done away. But surely he would not contradict everything else. So let’s look at a few of these verses and see just what he did say.

    I Corinthians 10:25, 27-28
    “Eat everything being sold in a meat market, examining nothing because of conscience.
    “And if any of the unbelievers invites you, and you desire to go, eat everything set before you, examining nothing because of conscience.
    “But if anyone tells you, This is slain in sacrifice to idols; do not eat, because of that one pointing it out, and the conscience: for the earth is Yahweh’s and the fullness of it.”

Some points to consider -

   1. What was sold? Were unclean meats sold there? Or was it a “kosher” market?
   2. If unclean items were sold, did he really say it was okay to buy them, or was he referring to eating “anything” that had already been approved by Yahweh?
   3. All his comments here are in regards to conscience due to sacrifices to idols – it mentions nothing about clean or unclean.
   4. Paul had known the law of Yahweh from a child. Like Peter he probably had never eaten anything common or unclean and was not recommending that others do so either.

    I Corinthians 8:13
    “Therefore, if food offends my brother, I will not at all eat flesh forever, so that I do not offend my brother.”

    Romans 14:15, 20-21
    “But if your brother is grieved because of your food, you no longer walk according to love. Do not by your food destroy that one for whom Messiah died.
    “Do not undo the work of Yahweh because of food. Truly, all things are clean, but it is bad to the man who eats through a stumbling-block.
    “It is good not to eat flesh, nor to drink wine, nor anything by which your brother stumbles, or is offended or is weak.”

What’s the subject here? Clean and unclean meat? No. It has to do with offending someone. For example, if you knew that some action (refers to more than just food) in particular would offend a friend, you wouldn’t purposely do it right in front of him, would you? Even if it were something that was perfectly okay for you to do?

Like drinking wine or beer. Suppose your friend doesn’t want to see people drinking because some loved ones were killed by a drunk driver. Would you offend him by drinking several beers in front of him? Simply because it was legal for you to do so and you wanted it – right then?

In the above scriptures, from Romans 14, the words in italics do not appear in the original Greek. So in verse 20, it actually says, “all things clean, but bad to the man through a stumbling-block eating”. It is referring to things that are clean! It is not talking about “unclean” items being made clean.

    Romans 14:23
    “But the one doubting, if he eats, he has been condemned, because it is not of faith – and whatever is not of faith is sin.”

If there is something a person doesn’t understand yet, don’t try to get him to go against his conscience. He is the one who has to live with his conscience, not you. And it does not refer to only clean or unclean meats – it can be anything.

    I Timothy 4:1-4
    “But the Spirit expressly says that in the latter times some will depart from the faith, cleaving to deceiving spirits and teachings of demons.
    “In hypocrisy of liars, being seared in their own conscience.
    “Forbidding to marry, saying to abstain from foods, which Yahweh created for partaking with thanksgiving by the believers, and those knowing the truth.
    “Because every creature of Yahweh is good and nothing to be thrust away, but having been received with thanksgiving.”

The world looks at this last verse and says that the law must have been changed because it says that every creature is good. So they rush to partake of all sorts of abominable creatures. But look at it again. The “is” does not appear in Greek. It is referring to all good creatures made by Yahweh. Notice back in verse 3 it says, “which Yahweh created for partaking”. All that Yahweh created to be eaten are good and we are free to eat of those. It implies that there are some that were not created for eating.

    2 Peter 3:15-16
    “And think of the long-suffering of our Master as salvation, as also our beloved brother Paul wrote to you, according to the wisdom given to him.
    “As also in all his epistles, speaking in them concerning these things, in which are some things hard to understand, which the unlearned and unsettled pervert, as also they do the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction.”

People have always had trouble with the writings of Paul. They see contradictions and say that he is advocating that the law was done away and nailed to the cross. But Paul totally understood the Law and its importance.

    Acts 22:3
    “I am indeed a man, a Jew having been born in Tarsus of Cilicia, but having been brought up in this city at the feet of Gamaliel; having been trained according to the exactness of the ancestral law, being a zealous one of Yahweh, even as you all are today.”

    Philippians 3:5
    “In circumcision, the eighth day; of the race of Israel, the tribe of Benjamin; a Hebrew of the Hebrews, according to Law, a Pharisee.”

With this ancestry and training, Paul definitely knew the Law. He knew exactly what it did or didn’t say. And if it had been changed, certainly he would have known. The next two Scriptures seem to indicate that he had not changed his beliefs, either. He continued to obey the Law of Yahweh.

    Acts 24:14
    “But I confess this to you, that according to the Way, which they say is a sect, so I worship the ancestral Yahweh, believing all things according to that having been written in the Law and the Prophets.”

Here he does not mention the Oral Law or the traditions of the Rabbis.

    Acts 25:8
    “Defending himself, Paul said, Neither against the Law of the Jews, nor against the Temple, nor against Caesar have I sinned in anything.”

@letseewhatthiswilldo - Also the Mishnah is not the Bible. I have never claimed it is.

All that you will see quoted above is the bible. No Mishnah no Kaballah or any of that stuff.

YOu are throwing persecptions that you have onto me.

All I am doing is reading and following the Bible.

You throw all your thoughts about certain groups onto me and think I must follow this or that. All I am doing is following G-d and the bible. The complete Bible. Not picking and choosing certian parts. Not making G-d a liar by making Him change.

Matthew 5:17-18
    “Do not think that I came to annul the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to annul, but to fulfill.
    “Truly I say to you, Until the heavens and the earth pass away, in no way shall one iota or one tittle pass away from the law until all come to pass.”

This has not happened yet, has it? Heaven and earth are still in place; they have not passed away. So then all Yahweh’s laws are still in place and in effect, aren’t they?

@OverACupOfTea - @OverACupOfTea - Acts 10 was telling Peter to see a Gentile….If it is read totally through it is very very easy to see it had nothing to do with eating.

Romans 14:15, 20-21
    “But if your brother is grieved because of your food, you no longer walk according to love. Do not by your food destroy that one for whom Messiah died.
    “Do not undo the work of Yahweh because of food. Truly, all things are clean, but it is bad to the man who eats through a stumbling-block.
    “It is good not to eat flesh, nor to drink wine, nor anything by which your brother stumbles, or is offended or is weak.”

What’s the subject here? Clean and unclean meat? No. It has to do with offending someone. For example, if you knew that some action (refers to more than just food) in particular would offend a friend, you wouldn’t purposely do it right in front of him, would you? Even if it were something that was perfectly okay for you to do?

Like drinking wine or beer. Suppose your friend doesn’t want to see people drinking because some loved ones were killed by a drunk driver. Would you offend him by drinking several beers in front of him? Simply because it was legal for you to do so and you wanted it – right then?

In the above scriptures, from Romans 14, the words in italics do not appear in the original Greek. So in verse 20, it actually says, “all things clean, but bad to the man through a stumbling-block eating”. It is referring to things that are clean! It is not talking about “unclean” items being made clean.

    Romans 14:23
    “But the one doubting, if he eats, he has been condemned, because it is not of faith – and whatever is not of faith is sin.”

If there is something a person doesn’t understand yet, don’t try to get him to go against his conscience. He is the one who has to live with his conscience, not you. And it does not refer to only clean or unclean meats – it can be anything.