September 26, 2009
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Prostitution and the Government
Ok, I am going to talk about something that I know many many of my readers will not agree with me on, but that is ok. Please read all this and then feel free to give your thoughts and opinions in the comments.
I know many people enjoy talking about the evils of Prostitution and I agree. I would never want one on my children to be a prostitute. I believe sex is a beautiful thing between a husband and a wife. That being said, I am about to say something that will probably shock everyone reading this…. I do not believe that Prostitution should be illegal.
Why?
Well, to be honest, I don’t think that it should be an issue that the government has it’s hands in. The government has put it’s hands into way too many things that it really shouldn’t have it’s hands in. Prostitution is one of those things. In the United States, each state has the power to decide whether or not prostitution is legal in that state or part of that state. In all but two U.S. states (Nevada and Rhode Island), the buying and selling of sexual services is illegal and usually classified as a misdemeanor.
Prosecuting Prostitutes has become a way for states to make money. Another way they could do this is by allowing legal Prostitution and just taxing them like the Bunny Ranch (this is a link to the actual Bunny Ranch site. You have been warned).Originally, prostitution was widely legal in the United States. Prostitution was made illegal in almost all states between 1910 and 1915 largely due to the influence of the Woman’s Christian Temperance Union which was influential in the banning of drug use and was a major force in the prohibition of alcohol.
Before that in many parts of the United States Brothels were common. Over 200 brothels existed in lower Manhattan. Brothels are establishments specifically dedicated to prostitution. Other names for brothels include bordello, whorehouse, cathouse, and knocking shop. Prostitution also occurs in some massage parlours, and in Asian countries in some barber shops where sexual services may be offered as a secondary function of the premises.Basically, prostitution has been and will continue to permeate society, thrive in it, and women will continue to use their bodies as a means to feed themselves.
Are we all agreed on that? So why not legalize it, if we know it exists already?Prostitution has been in existence for hundreds and hundreds of years, going back to the Byzantine, Roman, Greek, and Egyptian Empires. Prostitution is not about to disappear anytime soon, despite relatively recent local laws.
Ted Arthur Haggard was leader of the National Association of Evangelicals (NAE). He resigned or was removed after he admitted soliciting prostitute Mike Jones for homosexual sex and methamphetamine.
Edward Nottingham was the former chief federal judge of Colorado. In August 2007, Nottingham was exposed as having spent $3,000 at a strip club in 2005. His ex wife found the credit card receipt and it, and related purchases, became public knowledge through his divorce proceedings. In October 2008, Nottingham resigned after a prostitute filed an affidavit with the 10th Circuit claiming that she asked him to lie to 10th Circuit investigators about their weekly illegal sex sales from February 2003 through November 2004. Despite this, he is a lawyer in private practice in good standing in Colorado.
Louisiana Senator David Vitter was identified as a client of “D.C. Madam” Deborah Jeane Palfrey’s prostitution service in Washington, D.C. He is an outspoken conservative.
Making prostitution legal would allow the act to be managed instead of ignored.
Look at all the problems that occurred when Alcohol was illegal. Home producers created whiskey and bathtub gin. The price of alcohol skyrocketed in black market sales due to heavy demand and the greedy public officials who secretly monitored it. The government lost considerable amounts of tax dollars from bootlegged alcohol and it became impossible to regulate the quality and safety of the product. It was thought prohibition would put an end to many social problems but it actually created many more. Increasing the number of laws runs a risk of creating more criminals, and that is exactly what had happened. Jails became filled.
If we allow prostitution to remain hidden from view and basically invisible to the law as it is today, we allow a number of teens to be swept up into prostitution every year. When adult women decide to exchange money for sex, it is a personal choice open to them under the philosophy of a free, democratic society. When troubled minors who do not yet have the social survival skills decide to prostitute, they are often manipulated by opportunists who exploit these teens, typically leading to horrific ends. Legalizing prostitution will help prevent these instances through regulation.
Legalized, regulated prostitution has many benefits. Encounters can happen within controlled environments that bring about safety for both the customers and the prostitutes. Prostitutes would no longer be strong-armed by pimps or organized crime rings. Underage prostitution would be curtailed. There would also be health-safety improvements.
Why is the government deciding what is ok for two consenting adults in privacy?
There are many benefits to legalized prostitution.
The benefits include
(1) allowing law enforcement agencies to respond to more important crimes,
(2) freeing justice systems from nuisance cases,
(3) helping women who are trapped by prostitution,
(4) preventing teens from being ensnared into prostitution (If prostitution was legal then it would be easier (but not impossible) to keep under 18s out of it.)
(5) stopping some of the HIV spread (there could be Prostitutes who are HIV positive who could service clients who are HIV positive).
What are your thoughts?
Comments (30)
My god, could you imagine how much money for charity brothels could raise raffling off a handful of those chips…
@agnophilo -So…What are your thoughts about Legalized Prostitution?
@Kristenmomof3 - Should’ve been legalized ages ago.
All the horror stories associated with prostitution, disease, street walkers with 6 month life expectancy blowing people for pocket change etc, etc are caused by it being illegal. In places where it’s legal you have to save up to go visit a prostitute, and when you do it’s vastly safer and the woman decides if she wants to service you, not the other way around.
Not to mention that people who would be fucking their kids or raping women can go find someone who specializes in that sort of fantasy play (and maybe even gets off on it) instead. Those women should get a fucking medal in my opinion.
No pun intended.
I don’t know… it could lead to more social problems, but if they could set up laws and acts to protect these sex workers, maybe it’s possible to legalized prostitution.
I couldn’t disagree more. We don’t believe in legalizing murder even thought it’s been around forever and shows no signs of stopping.
I agree. Mostly.
i’d like to see more research from countries that have legalized it. i know nevada has the 2nd highest crime rate, but i haven’t looked to see in what areas. made me think!
@jerjonji - Las Vega has lots of Crime but Prostitution isn’t legal there either. Nevada has made LOTS of money off of legal prostitution.
I agree it should be legalised simply because it won’t ever stop, so might as well keep the prostitutes safe and healthy. I don’t like the last reason, though… it doesn’t sound ver nice, haha.
I can’t imagine, like, a special house “GET YOU HIV+ PROSTITUTES HERE!” But I can see how it’d be good.
@Kristenmomof3 - is making money off it the main motivator for legalizing it? we can make a lot of money off all kinds of things that i’m sure we’d agree shouldn’t be legal. i’d rather think about impacts- on the person/ ppl, the community, society, ourselves and let the money men think about the $$ part- which is why i’m not rich
@jerjonji - I think you can see in the post that money is not the only point in the post. It is not even one of the main points
@Kristenmomof3 - true- my comment was directed at your last comment to me.
In Amsterdam, Netherland, prostitution is legal so I think government will have to study on how they work on this issue.
In Thailand it’s illegal both prostitution and who promotes it but if the money they got from prostitution is to take care for family, they wouldn’t confiscate that money though.Nowadays, it’s a bit tougher issue because not only Thai women are working in this but some foreigners too and in these days, it is getting complicated because there are college students who sell out sex through internet called “Side Line Girl” and I can say these kind of prostitution is not as safe as actual prostitute one because their motivation is not based solely on money but on the “hunting men” game they played with friends too (like who will sleep with men more). Not to mention polices playing a big part on this (bribing and such).
So I would agree if it goes legal so they have more control (on HIV & other STDs, etc.) and to prevent polices and other people to gain more advantage because of its legalized state. But just like porn industry, it’s still not a career that worth doing, it goes legal because government can control it better.
I guess it’s something I hadn’t put a lot of thought into.
Wouldn’t legalizing it bring out the spread of diseases and more babies? Or possibly abortions?
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Dear Kristen,
Boy, I’ve seen your blog evolve a lot in the past few years. (And I knew you before the hijab. (hope I got the term right.) ) 602 friends. Wow. I think it was in early 2007 when you joined the Internet Island.
I totally agree with this, and since I seem to be in a “recommending” mood these past couple of days, I’m recommending the post. I’m an older single guy who will admit to losing his virginity to a prostitute. (And I’ve written about it on my blog) With prostitution legalized, the girls involved would be tested for STDs (as they are in Nevada) The brothels could be taxed, as you point out. And the guys who use the world’s oldest professionals wouldn’t be hassled (as they have been in Long Beach, CA where I work, and after being jailed, getting their pictures in the local paper.) Legalization would also put an end to the back alley prostitution and the hookers standing on street corners. It might also stem the usage of drugs and the proliferation of abusive pimps.
(Really, I only read about this stuff. I don’t know anything from experience.)
One thing I am against, however, is marride men who use prostitutes. That would be adultery, and disrespects their wives and children. Men and women in trouble sexually should find some way of working out their problems with counselling or at least open communication.
Thanks for this post. I’m sure if the U.S. legalized the world’s oldest profession, it would stimulate more than the economy!
Michael F.Nyiri, poet, philosopher, fool
Points 3 and 4 were going through my head while reading this. Prostitution in our society is a way to oppress others. Most prostitution is involuntary. I’ve never met a prostitute who enjoyed her job or wanted to continue doing it (many got caught up in it at a young age) and I’ve met a few of these men and women. I’d also point out the prostitution is not a female issue for both a male and female issue. I’ve met more male prostitutes than female!
While it would benefit the state in many ways to legalize this activity I can’t support this evil being supported.
@TheGreatBout - I agree with you.
I agree w/ you Kristen that prostitution should not be illegal. I could care less about the taxes to be made off of it though.
What they do w/ themselves is between them and their Maker. You can’t force people to have a heart change.
I don’t understand why some have left comments comparing this to legalizing murder, sex between consenting adults is not the same as taking someones life.
@TheGreatBout - I don’t think Kristen was implying that it should be legal to force adults or minors into prostitution.
Telling someone they can do something is not the same as giving your stamp of approval.
It’s not illegal to be a glutton or get drunk but that doesn’t mean that we are giving them our approval if they choose to do that.
Just wondering, does this mean polygamy or polyandry works for you, too? Well, not personally for you, but that what others do is no business of your own?
I want the right to be able to sell my kidney. Of if my wife gets killed in an auto accident, I want to be able to sell the eyes, heart etc. to the highest bidder.
I completely agree that it should be legal. However, the reason that it is not, is because it is so hard for the government to regulate it. It’s almost impossible to regulate (and tax) sex, so instead of legalizing a facet of the job market that they would get very little from, they just ban it, and hope that if they can’t make money, nobody can. Obviously, people are still doing it, and profiting, but very minimally, and with great risk to themselves.
@Lamb@revelife - Oh I didn’t think she meant that. I’m just pointing out that most prostitutes don’t choose it and it’s a terrible thing (prostitution). That’s all.
Hm what’s to study or thingk about we know that prostitution is wrong. Hence the big deal in rationalizing it. Making it legal would not get rid of the illigal portion of it.
I have a bit of a different stance, as I see absolutely nothing wrong with prostitution assuming the prostitutes are doing so entirely of their own accord *as opposed to the ones effectively trapped under a pimp). In that case, prostitution essentially becomes the service of consensual sex in exchange for money. Nothing at all wrong, aside from perhaps religious objections.
For the most part, you’ve already mentioned most my reasoning. Based on the comments, I would also like to add that my reasoning is based less on the money and more on the safety. Much as the re-legalization of alcohol effectively killed the black market, eliminating the bootleggers, it would likely parallel that ligalization of prostitution would kill the black market, eliminating the pimps and prostitution rings. Furthermore, much like with alcohol, regulation of brothels would ensure quality service. Of course there will still be unregulated prostitution, just as there are still home brewers. But the practice will drop significantly.
I’ve heard arguments for legalizing drugs that use the alcohol Prohibition Era as an example of how things would improve if drugs were legalized, and I can see benefits to that argument, though I’m not convinced. Prostitution, though, is another matter entirely. Your posting seems to imply that most of the people in the job are there voluntarily. It doesn’t seem to me to be the case.
Right now, age 18+ pornography is legal, yet many women are involuntarily pulled into situations where they must perform for the camera under conditions where they do not want to be and are not safe. Legalizing prostitution will not change the situation much that I can see. Drugs, gambling (illegal in most places), and prostitution are illegal because of their addictive and destructive nature. This creates a valid reason for society to place barriers to these activities, in order to help people avoid destroying their lives and those of others. Just because prostitution has always been around is not an excuse to legalize it.
There’s no reason to think that because prostitution is legal, there will be no street prostitution. Nevada has street prostitutes, HIV positive prostitutes, child prostitutes, and all of the rest of it.
I knit. It is extremely labour intensive and you will not save money doing it. You will almost certainly not _make_ money doing it. There are many other skills that are better ways to make money.
Kristen, I must say that I am more than a little surprised at this stance on your part. Why would you advocate that the government legalize something that is so CLEARLY against Gods” law and so clearly against the plan that He has for men and women?
I can understand some of your reasonings, it would be easier to control and regulate but as one of your other commentors has already said…would you want to legalize murder just because “it isn’t going to go away”?
Such a degrading, debasing thing for women to be involved in, whether it is voluntary ( which I do not believe most of it is) or involuntary, it erodes self esteem, spreads diseases and death, contributes to the break up of marriages and keeps women enslaved in a horribly lifestyle, I cannot imagine why any civilized society would want to legalize it. Besides, if the government did as good a job at overseeing it as it does on a lot of the other things that it is ‘in charge of”…it would be costing us millions of dollars in taxs before the first year was out!!!
Ruth Ann
Your logic really scares me, and sadly seems to be the way much of the Church is turning…if they are going to break the laws anyway, why have them? We could legalized, tax, profit and control everything from prostitution, drugs, and child slavery to killing the unwanted and selling body organs, gosh the list is endless. Wonder what we could do with the dictionary…hey, it’s no longer theivery, it’s my need being met by your abundance. Murder, no way…you got on my last nerve. Are you really serious about this?
I would agree that prostitution should be legal. Violence against prostitutes seems to be quite common, but for fear of trouble the women cannot get help. I think this is probably the main reason I wish it were legal, so these women would be able to get the help they need when they are really in a mess.
I actually agree with your post. I find prostitution to be disgusting so it may be contradictory that I’m saying this but only BECAUSE America is a “free” democratic society, I think it should be legal.
In Thailand there are lot of prostitute working womens.
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