April 27, 2011
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Updated: still waiting
a new update 4/27: I have reached a whole new level of pissed off. I feel lied to. I was led to believe that all would be done and overwith TODAY. LIARS! The guy isn’t even in today and the guy taking over for him knows NOTHING. I am just so MAD! A whole new level of MAD!
I am still waiting on Ford. I talked to them again yesterday. The guy had called corporate on Friday. He found out the issue (Supposedly we will see soon I guess) and resent what they needed. If everything went properly I should hear from them today because it supposedly normally only takes a day to a day and a half.(That is the time it takes for the ones that the front axle fails because they have to do a buy back of those. Ones that only the back axle fails can take months and months because those will be fixed eventually and returned to their owners) So far this has now been going on for 13 days.
Come on Ford. Let’s get this done and over with.
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For those who do not know about the recall……Vehicle Make / Model: FORD / WINDSTAR 1999-2003
Model Year(s): 1999-2003
Manufacturer : FORD MOTOR COMPANYComponent(s) : SUSPENSION
STRUCTURE:FRAME AND MEMBERSSummary:
The Office of Defects Investigation (ODI) has identified 346 complaints to ODI and Ford alleging fracture, cracking and or excessive corrosion of the front subframes in model year (MY) 1999 through 2003 Ford Windstar vehicles. Approximately 97 percent of these complaints (334) involve vehicles that have been operated in Salt Belt states, which make up approximately 60 percent of the subject vehicle sales in the United States.The front subframe, sometimes referred to as the engine cradle, is a structural component of the Windstar vehicles that carries the engine,transaxle, steering rack and certain front suspension components (e.g.,lower control arm). For complaints with sufficient information to identify the location of the failure, most describe problems with the rear mounting bracket for the front passenger-side lower control arm with some related to the rear body mount attachment located in the same general area of the subframe (right-rear section near the front passenger wheel). The remainder of the reports allege fracture of the front subframe at other or, most often, unspecified locations. Almost all of the complaints that specified the side of the vehicle indicated that the problem occurred on the right/passenger side (106), with only a few indicating the left/driver side(2) or both sides (3) were affected. Ford and several complainants attributed the right-side failures to the routing of the air-conditioning lines above the front subframe on that side of the vehicle, further noting that condensation has been observed dripping onto the front subframe in the area of the affected components (the A/C drain tube is also located on the right side, near the front subframe). ODI has identified 93 complaints related to lower control arm attachments, including 80 that appear to involve complete separations. All but one of these involved vehicles from Salt Belt states. All three crash incidents appear to be related to lower control arm separations, including one road departure into a road-side sign resulting in a totalled vehicle and a lane departure into another vehicle.Almost half of the ODI complaints related to control arm separation occurred at speeds greater than 20 mph and about a quarter occurred at highway speeds. Three-quarters of these complaints allege experiencing difficulty controlling the vehicle and about 40 percent appear to have resulted in departures from the intended lane of travel. Testing by both Ford and NHTSA have demonstrated that lower control arm separation from therear attachment bracket results in significant toe out of the affected wheel, which affects the driver’s ability to control vehicle direction.According to Ford, moderate braking improved vehicle controllability by reducing the amount of toe out, possibly explaining incidents that did not allege a loss of control. ODI’s analysis of complaints related to the rear body mount identified 41 complaints (ODI only). These complaints generally report experiencing progressively worsening noise concerns when turning,accelerating or braking. Although, some of the complaints that appeared to involve a complete separation of the body mount alleged difficulty steering, the effects on vehicle control from this failure mode do not appear to be as great as those resulting from control arm separation.However, ODI is seeking more information regarding two complaints which alleged that body mount failure resulted in disconnection of the steering wheel from the steering rack (one occurred during vehicle service). This investigation has been upgraded to an Engineering Analysis for subject vehicles sold or currently registered in Salt Belt states to further assess the scope, frequency and safety consequences of the alleged defect in these vehicles. ODI will continue to gather information about vehicles outside the Salt Belt as well. Repurchase offers will be extended to owners of vehicles that cannot be repaired with the reinforcement brackets.http://www2.tbo.com/content/2010/dec/15/152204/minivan-recall-grows-as-victims-family-speaks-out/
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THIS HAS BEEN AN ISSUE FOR 2 YEARS OR MORE NOW AND ONLY A RECALL RECENT!!!!!
I used to have a Crapstar. I hope you get some satisfaction soon.
Even with the known recall…isn’t there some way they can be forced to put you in a safer car until the repair or pay you for the inconvenience of not driving your car due to not wanting to chance an unsafe car? That video was taken at 35 mph. That is neighborhood speed…short trips to the grocery store…I understand not putting the car on a highway. But when it comes to the fact you can’t even pick up your kids at school safely with one….arrgh!
@mommachatter - right now my van is at Ford. It failed inspection and can not be fixed because the front axle failed. I am just waiting for them to write me the buy back check. I have been waiting on that for 2 weeks. I have a vehicle lined up to buy once they give me my money.
I know that I have commented on this post before. But sometimes things happen that daily duties that my husband attendends to after work doesnt always leave a lot of time for conversation as he has to go to bed almost within an hour and a half of arriving home (he works 12 hour days) so the subject of this post didn’t come up in the conversation until today when he has an unexpected day off. I was wondering…are they giving you the full purchase price back? Or are they deducting the time that you had the potentially deadly vehicle? I think I am almost as angry as you…not so much at the dealer as I am sure he is overwhelmed with the problem…but instead the fact that FORD has seemingly known about this since 1999 and their worship of the almighty dollar being so great that they did not notify of the recall until now. I have always heard that F O R D stands for “Fix Or Repair Daily” or “Find On Road Dead” but I always thought that last one was talking about the car being dead not the passengers. I don’t know of any way I can help but if there is some sort of petititon or something let me know. Seems like there should be some sort of criminal neglegent crime committed here.