July 6, 2011
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Question for everyone
I have been reading a lot of what people have been saying about the whole Casey Anthony case and I have a question…..
Thoughts?
I have been reading a lot of what people have been saying about the whole Casey Anthony case and I have a question…..
Thoughts?
Comments (29)
I don’t understand the appeal of giving these things national attention, really. It’s nothing but a distraction. We all like to feel important by belittling others that we deem as lesser, for whatever reason, and this type of thing allows us to take time out of our day to do so. It’s not like these types court cases don’t take place every day – why do some get media coverage and others don’t? Plus, making it such a big national spectacle only makes it harder to have a truly unbiased jury.
Personally I don’t care one way or another, partly because I wasn’t paying attention but mainly because I don’t find it newsworthy – not on a national level, at least. Locally? Sure, but when it comes to the national media circus I tend to avoid that mob mentality that it so desperately tries to evoke.
It’s very difficult to be innocent until proven guilty if the media are against you.
well… i just wrote a long entry related to this… which ties in directly with my religious beliefs. i wont repeat myself here, so i’ll try branching out a bit.
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What is the point of having a justice system if everyone wants to go against it in mob mentality?
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perhaps precisely that. you can’t “mob mentality” everything (yes i turned it into a verb). give them something to focus on if they’re not contributing, or think they’re contributing, and voila, this means there IS a system (alleviating responsibility if any for everything else)! gasp.
@Pink_TeaCups - Agreed. If the media is having a field day in portraying you as the bad guy you’re done in the eyes of the public.
OP: As you already know I think we should abide by our justice system. That’s not to say our justice system isn’t flawed but we do not have the luxury of having a crystal ball that can tell us most certainly who is guilty and who isn’t. People get mad at jurors and attorneys when the verdict doesn’t go their way but there wasn’t enough evidence to convict; it wasn’t a hung jury.
I agree. Reading all those comments/entries I am more and more convinced we need professional jurors like other countries. If I were brought up on charges of a crime I didn’t commit I would be scared out of my mind because it seems so many people are influenced by the media and their emotions, even though they are instructed by the judge that the case can’t be judged on their feelings and needs to be judged on facts and evidence. Vigilantism is not the answer either. Is our system flawed? Yes, all systems are, and we have room for improvement but the changes to the system have to be done in the system and legally, not by vigilantism.
BTW, love your new layout. :)
If Casey Anthony is genuinely guilty and she’s getting off scott free, the fault is in the prosecutor, not the system. Changing the system to render more guilty verdicts would also sentence more innocent people, and that’s a cure that’s worse than the disease.
I’ve been seeing a lot of outcry over this but I haven’t followed any of it myself. I didn’t even know who Casey Anthony was until three or four days ago. It seems like people don’t understand how the justice system works. Yes, it’s imperfect (look who created it) but when the jury delivers a not guilty (not to be confused with “innocent”) verdict then don’t you think there’s at least a chance that the defendant might actually be not guilty? Regardless, the mob mentality and vigilante justice has no place in a civilized society.
My take on vigilante justice -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EvTNQVDHSc
Absolutely – call me naive but for the reasons you stated I believe she is innocent. It’s a good thing our system is not tried in the media and the society votes on it. We have the best system in the world. It may not be perfect but if it errors it errors on the side of innocence. We are all innocent until proven guilty. She was not proven guilty.
I think she did it, but according to our justice system she didn’t. Gotta go along with it.
Like someone once said, “not guilty” does not equal innocent.
If the evidence wasn’t convincing enough, then that’s that and the ruling was correct.
Still, I believe some MAJOR child neglect charges should be filed against her, in addition to the several counts of lying to authorities.
I haven’t been following it that closely – has she expressed any desire of finding her daughter’s killer, if she was indeed murdered?
It’s what I’ve been saying to those getting angry over the verdit; the prosecution did not do their job and left a lot of doubt: the jury had no choice but to find her guilty on only one charge, of witholding or giving false information to police officers. If she did kill her child, the prosecutors did not prove it and the weight of that falls on them alone. I didn’t watch the trial; and so much of what is presented to the jury isn’t there for viewers to judge and: it’s not our place to be judge.
Obviously people are going to have to accept the fact that she was charged as not guilty, but many people, like myself, truly believe she was guilty. Hands down, I believe with everything in me that she, if not by her own hand, killed her baby daughter. Its a shame she wasn’t at least charged with some account of child neglect being that her 2 and a half year old was missing for 31 days…but thats another story. On the other hand, it is also a shame that she probably will have to live under witness protection for the rest of her life; I guess thats the way of the world, though it shouldn’t be like that.
@Saridactyl - @Unstoppable_Inner_Strength - @stephx4 - The defense also claimed that Casey went along with the cover-up because
her father had sexually abused her for years, and she was too
intimidated by him to do anything else. So if he agreed to the cover-up
story, he was essentially confessing to being a child molester. If he
loved her enough to confess to on what was essentially an international
stage, he might as well have just taken the blame for the child’s death
in the first place.
The long-term effects of childhood sexual abuse can be extreme, and the
pressure to never tell is much stronger than most people would ever,
ever suspect. Yes, I can see Casey doing 2-3 years of time in jail
before talking about the abuse as a reason for why she would obey her
father’s wishes.
Why they would go to such lengths to cover up an accidental drowning
still doesn’t make sense to me, but opens up more questions. If the
grandfather molested his daughter, was he molesting the granddaughter
too? Was she starting to talk about it, and did HE maybe drown the child
to cover up what he was doing?
That, to me, is a more likely explanation for the lies and the general confusion than the story that was told in court.
I think it is stupid to get so worked up. There are people on my facebook threatening to drive their cars to florida (a 2-3 day drive from here) to run her over repeatedly. One girl said she wanted to shove bombs up her ass, among many other things. Does that really solve anything? No. The simple fact is that there wasn’t enough evidence to convict beyond reasonable doubt. If the prosecuters were unable to make a solid case, then she isn’t convicted. You can’t base a decision to kill someone off of your gut instinct. Most people I know blame the jury. They are the ones with all the “evidence” or lack thereof, sitting right in front of them. I’m glad the jury could seperate fact from feeling.
On a side note, I want to rape your theme. Fucking. Love. House. New season now please.
@sassypenguin - i know, house is awesome
@Kristenmomof3 - My brother and father have a theory that Caylee’s father was really Casey’s father. Because the baby’s father was never once mentioned or questioned – as far as they could find. (I have no clue about that) So they’ve concocted this theory that he tried to fight for Caylee as a father, or was actually the one that killed her to cover up the fact that he had raped his own daughter and inpregnanted her. Sounds like a TV Court Drama to me, but it is an interesting theory.
I wholeheartedly agree! I actually read somewhere today (from a person whose only goal in life is to win “lost souls” to Christ, nonetheless!) that the person who blows her head off with a shotgun is a hero and someone we should hold in high regard.
Are you kidding me?
The prosecution’s job was to prove beyond reasonable doubt (according to the Constitution!) that she did it. They couldn’t do that. Therefore, she walked. It doesn’t matter at this point whether she did it or not because there’s almost nothing they can do to her. If she did it, she’ll get hers and if she didn’t, then she won’t. Why is this so hard to accept?
This is what we get (the above claims about others threatening casey) when we allow people to put up wanted posters on other citizens, stalk them, call them at home, threaten to put bombs in their cars and kill them simply because they don’t agree with what that person is doing which they in no way have to participate in – I’m talking of the treatment allowed to be visited on abortion dr’s and those associated with them. Seems it’s okay to kill in this society; just disagree with every fiber of your being of what someone else is doing or has done and that disgust is more than enough reason to put an end to someone else’s life — wonder what it’s like to be these people: to be judge, jury and executioner … oh yeah .. .like a god.
I think the problem with the justice system today is that we would rather let a guilty person go free than put an innocent person to jail. However, I have to admit, if I were on that jury, I would have a hard time saying Casey Anthony was guilty without unwavering proof. I find it hard to believe that a mother would not report her child missing for 31 days. Like someone else said, the jury should have considered the child neglect charge more carefully. I just find the entire situation suspect. With all the lying that went on during the trial- someone in that family must know exactly what happened. I guess I hoped that someone in the family would come clean and say what really happened. If it were truly an accident, then there is nothing to hide. All of the lying, hiding, and deception points to some form of guilt.
That’s my 2 cents.
All that being said – the public should accept the verdict the jury gave. Justice was served in the form of her having a fair, thorough trial, which I believe she had.
I’m sorry. But that’s not how things work.
Especially seeing as Casey Anthony should have been convicted for more then just lying to the police.
She covered up her daughters dissapearence for THIRTY ONE DAYS.
then when her LIE about Zanny the Nanny was uncovered.
She allegedly drowned in the pool.
Uhm. Why would their be duct tape wrapped around her skull with a red heart sticker over her lips.
NO NO NO.
And lets say she DIDN’T do it. She was covering SOMETHING up.
My real mom has murdered more then one guy.
But the first time was found not guilty. Then when she did it AGAIN. she was found guilty.
Did it mean she wasn’t guilty the first time because a group of PEOPLE decided she wasn’t.?
Nope. She was still guilty.
The same goes for Casey.
Just because the court messed up on preserving evidence.
Doesn’t mean she isn’t guilty.
SHES A LIAR. and even if she didn’t MURDER her CHILD.
she neglected to REPORT HER MISSING.
For 31 fucking days.
No. She’s definitely guilty of something.
I disagree with the legal process in principle, so the demand for respect of the letter of that law holds very little sway for me.
The system does not work efficiently enough; I will criticize its decisions when their flaws become apparent, regardless of protocol.
It’s not our place to judge her. She got off as innocent. Alright, maybe she was. Let’s move on.
@magswags - Yeah, but no one can just convict on suspicious or guilty thoughts, otherwise, we’d be all on trial for one thing or another.
OP:
I think with it’s flaws (we are humans operating it after all and we are hardly even perfect) the justice system does what it can. It’s not perfect but it does work to a lot of degree and it does give everyone a fair chance.
Oh I love the House background
THANK YOU.
The firestorm of hate and anger that swept Twitter after the not-guilty verdict scared the heck out of me. All I could think about was what it would be like if I were on the jury for a high-profile murder trial, made the best decision I possibly could, and came out of the courthouse to discover the whole nation hated my guts.
i have no idea whether or not she’s guilty or innocent, how could i? but i do want someone to be held responsible for the loss of a life, a child’s life.
I did not have a seat on the jury. I did not see the evidence they saw and I was not instructed to make a decision based on that evidence only. I did not have to make a decision based on it being right to me beyond a shadow of a doubt. What I think and feel, and what I would have felt and thought if I would have been on that jury would have been two different things.
It is easy to voice my opinion about what I think and what I would have done, but I was not there.I think Casey is guilty and karma will get her but that is my opinion.
I think that the Casey Anthony case is a prime example of why they shouldn’t allow media into the courtrooms. With the media, the viewers can’t see everything..meaning all of the evidence or lack of evidence that the jury sees or doesn’t see. The media is controlled by editors who only show what they think will boost their ratings. They don’t give a crap about if there was true justice done. As long as people are watching their station.
As for those people who are mobbing against Casey Anthony. GET A LIFE! On a second note also learn how the justice system actually works. If it worked on what we believe, we would be having the Salem witch trials left and right all over the nation. All of our trials would be unfair because of hear say.
I think the jurors did an excellent job at what they were supposed to do. They didn’t let their emotions get in the way and made a decision based SOLELY on evidence and not what they think. If anyone follied during the case, it was the prosecuting attorney for rushing the case and not finding enough evidence to find Casey Anthony guilty beyond a reason of a doubt.
All this mob mentality towards this case is making our nation look ignorant. It’s showing everyone else in the world that American citizens don’t even know how their own justice system works.
Idk man, but I like your background. House is fucking awesome.
@MassiveVortex - thanks