These were good. I don’t think there is a gay agenda, just like I didn’t think there was a black or woman’s agenda to be treated fairly
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Equal rights is the gay agenda!
No but seriously, the gay agenda is a paranoid fantasy extreme right-wingers fabricated to distract from their own shortcomings and fuck ups.
The gay agenda is a fear tactic used by right wing nut jobs and religious homophobes. In word… idiots.
Now, now. Every political group has an agenda, including homosexuals and supporters of the gay community. So there’s an actual Gay Agenda? Now all you have to do is get people to understand what it REALLY is.
Failing that, remind them that their Christian/Conservative Agenda is being hypocritical and accusing the Gay Agenda of the exact same thing it does.
@Automaton_Emotion - You say that every Political group has an agenda. So you believe the homosexual community to be a political group? So then are Asians a political group? There are LGBTQ Republican. There are LGBTQ democrats. There are LGBTQ Libertarians. etc.
@Kristenmomof3 - Every group that combines its efforts to effect a change in legislation through support or protest is a political group. The gay community has certainly formed political alliances in an effort to do just that.
You’ll note that I also mentioned the Christian Agenda. You didn’t bat an eye at that, did ya?
Having an agenda isn’t inherently bad or wrong. We all have our goals, the pursuit of which becomes our agenda. So, when someone throws that at you like an epithet, own it.
“You’re right, we have an agenda. Our agenda is to promote the equal rights of all individuals regardless of age, sex, race, disability, etc. OR SEXUAL ORIENTATION. Why is it wrong to expect equal treatment under the law?”
@Automaton_Emotion - I didn’t bat an eye at Christian agenda because you did Christian/conservative.
I don’t think you can say “Christian agenda” either because there are all different types of christians like there are LGBTQ too.
I could care less if men or women who are attracted to the same sex want to be with each other.It’s when they try to undermine marriage as what it IS,a bond between and man and woman,thats when I get mad and see it as an agenda.This just came to me while I’m sitting here thinking about how to explain how I feel about it all. It may be totally off the wall,but here goes. What if a man and his son decide they want to be partners and get married,same with a mother and daughter? How would you look at that? Since one sin is overlooked,why not the other? Man’s desire’s over God’s puts him on a very slippery slope at best.You of all people should understand this Kristen
@Kristenmomof3 - Technically, they’re separate groups. As you’ve pointed out about the LGBTQ community’s political diversity, the Christian community (if you will) is equally diverse. The overall agenda, though, can be unified in regards to homosexuality as one against the promotion of homosexuality as a viable lifestyle.
Frankly, it’d be devastating for large numbers of same sex marriages to happen. This country would definitely feel the effects of it. Why? Typically, homosexual professionals are more educated and have a higher earning potential than their heterosexual peers, which places them in one of the higher tax brackets. If you allow same sex marriage, you extend the tax breaks offered to heterosexual couples and lose a measurable amount of tax revenue.
On the other hand, think of the boost for the entire wedding industry.
If conservatives were really concerned about the economy, they’d be first in line to sign off on same sex marriages.
@Inspectorgrampy5 - The gay agenda is to normalize homosexuality to the point of being accepted even to the point of marriage and parenthood as being equal to men and women marrying and having kids. In the past it was seen as an abomination, like it says in the Bible, and the gay agenda is absolutely to make this obsolete.
I don’t see an agenda in wanting to be treated like human beings.
I think that it’s good for all organized, political groups to have goals in mind, or that ugly word, “agendas.” While I agree that the right has radicalized the word and tends to lump LGBQT people together, I think that there are many political LGBQT groups that do have, and must have, agendas. Otherwise, how would they ever get to see change happen in the world? I’m a straight ally, and you can bet that I want to be involved in politics to share my goals or, *gasp* agenda, of equality for LGBQT people with the rest of the world. Agendas aren’t bad. It’s the demonizing of them through nasty political marketing tactics that creates the problem.
@Kristenmomof3 - I think maybe this is a useful link to clarify why someone might consider LGBQT people a political group–identity politics. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identity_politics Not saying that I agree or disagree with identity politics, but I think it’s a good tool for understanding.
what a great post! i laughed at bert and ernie
Fundamental to the Gay Agenda is hallucinating the opposition and then arguing against it. The objective of such a farce is to destroy the character of the opposition by hallucinating it into something hateful. This is done because of the inability to actually address the issues that present themselves in non-hallucinated reality.
@LoBornlytesThoughtPalace - Yes, because we all know there aren’t people out there with hatred towards homosexuals. We’re just making that up.
@GodlessLiberal - This post isn’t about “people” it’s about the Republican party and people who do not support the Gay Agenda. It specifically misuses the Constitution, lies about the actual Gay Agenda by pretending it isn’t real, etc., to create a hateful straw dog.
@LoBornlytesThoughtPalace - Alright then Charlie, let’s have it. What, in your learned opinion is the “gay agenda”? And where did you get your data to support it?
@ItsWhatEyeKnow - I’ve been posting about it for the last week or so. In short, though, the Gay Agenda is a wing of the leftist agenda. And as we all know, the Left is all about pitting groups of people against each other for the purposes of creating unrest and conflict.
XD My junior year of high school, when I decided to join my high school Gay-Straight Alliance, my dad told me he didn’t want me “forwarding the Gay Agenda.” The hell?
I’m glad I’ve lived in a city where I’ve had gay friends and all kinds of friends. I even learned to accept people who don’t have blonde hair and blue eyes. That was a huge leap too.
@LoBornlytesThoughtPalace - If anyone is hallucinating, it seems like it’s you… I can’t for the life of me understand how you’re getting these far-fetched ideas.
When someone says “Gay Agenda”, I think that they have a distorted idea of equality, in which other people having equal rights is somehow discriminatory. They also do not understand the Golden Rule, in that they have not thought for two seconds (I’d guess) about how they would feel if the situation was reversed.
As far as I can tell, the “sinister agenda” of the gay community seems to be “convincing others to treat them as human beings”. Oh, the horror.
Fundamental to the Gay Agenda is hallucinating the opposition and then arguing against it. The objective of such a farce is to destroy the character of the opposition by hallucinating it into something hateful. This is done because of the inability to actually address the issues that present themselves in non-hallucinated reality.
Yup. Just as we must have all hallucinated Matthew Shepard and Harvey Milk.
I read something somewhere that said the gay agenda is to take over the world and make it fabulousssss!!!
The first item on the gay “agenda” is to be treated like a normal fucking human being. I can only hope that the second item will be to make it so a straight person can support gays without themselves being assumed to be gay.
Personally, I want to know — if marriage is so religious, why can atheists get married?
@thepsychoticraccoon - Because atheists still typically have the decency to want to marry people of the opposite gender and therefor appear ‘normal’? Though there’s plenty of groups out there that seem to want to turn marriage in to a more blatantly religious thing. If they succeeded I don’t think atheists would be too far behind on getting marriage rights yanked away. At least if they’re not willing to go with a religious marriage from some recognized Christian sect.
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These were good. I don’t think there is a gay agenda, just like I didn’t think there was a black or woman’s agenda to be treated fairly
(hugs)
Equal rights is the gay agenda!
No but seriously, the gay agenda is a paranoid fantasy extreme right-wingers fabricated to distract from their own shortcomings and fuck ups.
The gay agenda is a fear tactic used by right wing nut jobs and religious homophobes.
In word… idiots.
Now, now. Every political group has an agenda, including homosexuals and supporters of the gay community. So there’s an actual Gay Agenda? Now all you have to do is get people to understand what it REALLY is.
Failing that, remind them that their Christian/Conservative Agenda is being hypocritical and accusing the Gay Agenda of the exact same thing it does.
@Automaton_Emotion - You say that every Political group has an agenda. So you believe the homosexual community to be a political group? So then are Asians a political group? There are LGBTQ Republican. There are LGBTQ democrats. There are LGBTQ Libertarians. etc.
@Kristenmomof3 - Every group that combines its efforts to effect a change in legislation through support or protest is a political group. The gay community has certainly formed political alliances in an effort to do just that.
You’ll note that I also mentioned the Christian Agenda. You didn’t bat an eye at that, did ya?
Having an agenda isn’t inherently bad or wrong. We all have our goals, the pursuit of which becomes our agenda. So, when someone throws that at you like an epithet, own it.
“You’re right, we have an agenda. Our agenda is to promote the equal rights of all individuals regardless of age, sex, race, disability, etc. OR SEXUAL ORIENTATION. Why is it wrong to expect equal treatment under the law?”
@Automaton_Emotion - I didn’t bat an eye at Christian agenda because you did Christian/conservative.
I don’t think you can say “Christian agenda” either because there are all different types of christians like there are LGBTQ too.
I could care less if men or women who are attracted to the same sex want to be with each other.It’s when they try to undermine marriage as what it IS,a bond between and man and woman,thats when I get mad and see it as an agenda.This just came to me while I’m sitting here thinking about how to explain how I feel about it all. It may be totally off the wall,but here goes. What if a man and his son decide they want to be partners and get married,same with a mother and daughter? How would you look at that? Since one sin is overlooked,why not the other? Man’s desire’s over God’s puts him on a very slippery slope at best.You of all people should understand this Kristen
@Kristenmomof3 - Technically, they’re separate groups. As you’ve pointed out about the LGBTQ community’s political diversity, the Christian community (if you will) is equally diverse. The overall agenda, though, can be unified in regards to homosexuality as one against the promotion of homosexuality as a viable lifestyle.
Frankly, it’d be devastating for large numbers of same sex marriages to happen. This country would definitely feel the effects of it. Why? Typically, homosexual professionals are more educated and have a higher earning potential than their heterosexual peers, which places them in one of the higher tax brackets. If you allow same sex marriage, you extend the tax breaks offered to heterosexual couples and lose a measurable amount of tax revenue.
On the other hand, think of the boost for the entire wedding industry.
If conservatives were really concerned about the economy, they’d be first in line to sign off on same sex marriages.
@Inspectorgrampy5 - The gay agenda is to normalize homosexuality to the point of being accepted even to the point of marriage and parenthood as being equal to men and women marrying and having kids. In the past it was seen as an abomination, like it says in the Bible, and the gay agenda is absolutely to make this obsolete.
I don’t see an agenda in wanting to be treated like human beings.
I think that it’s good for all organized, political groups to have goals in mind, or that ugly word, “agendas.” While I agree that the right has radicalized the word and tends to lump LGBQT people together, I think that there are many political LGBQT groups that do have, and must have, agendas. Otherwise, how would they ever get to see change happen in the world? I’m a straight ally, and you can bet that I want to be involved in politics to share my goals or, *gasp* agenda, of equality for LGBQT people with the rest of the world. Agendas aren’t bad. It’s the demonizing of them through nasty political marketing tactics that creates the problem.
@Kristenmomof3 - I think maybe this is a useful link to clarify why someone might consider LGBQT people a political group–identity politics. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identity_politics Not saying that I agree or disagree with identity politics, but I think it’s a good tool for understanding.
what a great post! i laughed at bert and ernie
Fundamental to the Gay Agenda is hallucinating the opposition and then arguing against it. The objective of such a farce is to destroy the character of the opposition by hallucinating it into something hateful. This is done because of the inability to actually address the issues that present themselves in non-hallucinated reality.
@LoBornlytesThoughtPalace - Yes, because we all know there aren’t people out there with hatred towards homosexuals. We’re just making that up.
@GodlessLiberal - This post isn’t about “people” it’s about the Republican party and people who do not support the Gay Agenda. It specifically misuses the Constitution, lies about the actual Gay Agenda by pretending it isn’t real, etc., to create a hateful straw dog.
@LoBornlytesThoughtPalace - Alright then Charlie, let’s have it. What, in your learned opinion is the “gay agenda”? And where did you get your data to support it?
@ItsWhatEyeKnow - I’ve been posting about it for the last week or so. In short, though, the Gay Agenda is a wing of the leftist agenda. And as we all know, the Left is all about pitting groups of people against each other for the purposes of creating unrest and conflict.
XD My junior year of high school, when I decided to join my high school Gay-Straight Alliance, my dad told me he didn’t want me “forwarding the Gay Agenda.” The hell?
@LoBornlytesThoughtPalace - What do they want? Specifics.
I’m glad I’ve lived in a city where I’ve had gay friends and all kinds of friends. I even learned to accept people who don’t have blonde hair and blue eyes. That was a huge leap too.
@LoBornlytesThoughtPalace - If anyone is hallucinating, it seems like it’s you… I can’t for the life of me understand how you’re getting these far-fetched ideas.
When someone says “Gay Agenda”, I think that they have a distorted idea of equality, in which other people having equal rights is somehow discriminatory. They also do not understand the Golden Rule, in that they have not thought for two seconds (I’d guess) about how they would feel if the situation was reversed.
As far as I can tell, the “sinister agenda” of the gay community seems to be “convincing others to treat them as human beings”. Oh, the horror.
Fear mongering.
@LoBornlytesThoughtPalace -
Fundamental to the Gay Agenda is hallucinating the opposition and then arguing against it. The objective of such a farce is to destroy the character of the opposition by hallucinating it into something hateful. This is done because of the inability to actually address the issues that present themselves in non-hallucinated reality.
Yup. Just as we must have all hallucinated Matthew Shepard and Harvey Milk.
@Demetrios_of_Phaleron -
I read something somewhere that said the gay agenda is to take over the world and make it fabulousssss!!!
The first item on the gay “agenda” is to be treated like a normal fucking human being. I can only hope that the second item will be to make it so a straight person can support gays without themselves being assumed to be gay.
Personally, I want to know — if marriage is so religious, why can atheists get married?
@thepsychoticraccoon - Because atheists still typically have the decency to want to marry people of the opposite gender and therefor appear ‘normal’?
Though there’s plenty of groups out there that seem to want to turn marriage in to a more blatantly religious thing. If they succeeded I don’t think atheists would be too far behind on getting marriage rights yanked away. At least if they’re not willing to go with a religious marriage from some recognized Christian sect.